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What can the dynamics of music teach us about navigating today’s complex world? The Power of Music Thinking podcast dives deep into this potent analogy. Host Christof Zürn, founder of MusicThinking.com, explores how concepts like listening, tuning, rhythm, and improvisation translate into powerful tools for business, creativity, and leadership. Through engaging interviews with global thought leaders, designers, entrepreneurs, and artists, discover practical ways to improve collaboration, spark innovation, and lead teams more effectively. Learn how to listen differently, find your team’s rhythm, and embrace improvisation in the face of uncertainty. And there are special episodes around a theme or experiment. For anyone fascinated by the intersection of creativity, strategy, and human dynamics – subscribe to The Power of Music Thinking.
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Tuesday Aug 10, 2021
The Thrills of Business with Padraic McMahon
Tuesday Aug 10, 2021
Tuesday Aug 10, 2021
What are the similarities between the technology and the record industry? And what is situational leadership?
In this episode, we connect with Padraic McMahon, Customer Success Manager at Hubspot, a software company that helps businesses grow. Padraic has worked in Management positions at Google and LinkedIn. Before that, he was the guitar player of The Thrills that had some major hits from 2003 on. Their first LP was going platinum in the UK and Ireland, and their top hit 'Big Sur' has more than 8 Mio plays on Spotify alone and is still growing.
We talk about the similarities in tech business and the record business and the situational leadership of the producer role that brings a group of people to their optimum performance regardless of the circumstances.
He shares with us what the Hubspot unplugged week means to the team and compares the studio analogy with the importance of the work-life balance in working for a technology company. And the insight that you need different leadership at different times. Like the difference of the first record, to the second and the third - or in my words from start-up to scale-up to selling the company.
Padraic gives us an example of 'the art of remixing' where visual and sonic cues help make the mix's best decision.
Quote: 'Where you invest, you need to divest!'
Show notes
- Connect with Padraic: https://www.linkedin.com/in/padraicmcmahon/
- Hubspot website: https://www.hubspot.com/
- The Thrills on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thrills
- Padraic explains Schumpeter’s Theory of Creative Destruction and MBWA - management by wandering around.
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